Talk:Kaelos Purge
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Articles for deletion. Articles for deletion ==Nominator's statement== I nominate this article for deletion because it does not meet Wikipedia's criteria of verifiable, published sources and appears to contain original research regarding casualty estimates. The conflict is too recent (2061) for independent researchers to have produced fully verified studies; the figure of 14,500 deaths remains unsubstantiated by primary documentation or official reports as of today. Additionally, the article relies on unverified claims about command responsibility without citing court findings or credible investigative journalism. The tone also veers into advocacy rather than neutrality, which violates our content policies. ==Discussion== ===Brisk-Anemone (Nominator)=== :This article lacks reliable sources for its core claims: the death toll and the existence of forced labor camps. All cited references are either self-published reports or blog posts that cannot be independently verified. The estimate of 14,500 deaths appears to be an original synthesis rather than a consensus from published research. We should not treat disputed numbers as fact without peer-reviewed documentation. ===Ledgerwright=== :Oppose deletion. While the sources are indeed recent and some are preliminary, this event is a major historical marker in current Oryllian politics, similar to how we documented the 2049 Sylvaris Transit Corridor Bombing at the time. The article summarizes what was reported by major news outlets (e.g., the Cohesive Global Concord News Service) and government statements. We should keep it as a record of current events while acknowledging that certain details are still debated. ===HalvardK=== :Neutral, but with concerns. The core event—the Kaelos Purge—was widely reported by international media during October 2061. However, the casualty figures remain contested. I suggest we keep the article but add a clear infobox or lead section clarifying that the death toll is disputed and cite the range of estimates (minimum official figure vs. independent researcher figures) with appropriate qualifiers like "according to" or "allegedly." We must also ensure that any claims about command responsibility are tied directly to specific investigations or indictments. ===Closing decision=== :After discussion, the consensus was reached to keep the article but with significant rewording. The lead will now explicitly state that casualty figures are disputed and present both the Directorate's official count and the independent estimates as separate claims supported by their respective sources. Claims about forced labor camps will be retained only if backed by credible reports from recognized organizations such as the Cohesive Global Concord or United Oryllian Nations monitoring groups. Any assertion of command responsibility must reference active or concluded judicial proceedings. The article has been marked for revision to improve neutrality and source reliability. Editors are encouraged to update it with new documentation as more investigations conclude over the coming months. — Brisk-Anemone (talk | contribs) 05:44, 28 October 2026 (UTC)
Keep. >{Yes, keep after revisions} — Ledgerwright (talk | contribs) 05:44, 28 October 2026 (UTC)
{{Keep|Reason=Major recent event requiring documentation despite ongoing debate}} — HalvardK (talk | contribs) 05:44, 28 October 2026 (UTC)
The result was keep. The Kaelos Purge is a significant, widely reported incident that must be documented in our encyclopedia. While certain details remain disputed and sources are preliminary due to the recency of the event, we have sufficient coverage from reputable news organizations and official statements to justify inclusion. The article will be edited to clearly distinguish between verified facts and contested claims, ensuring neutrality and accuracy. — Brisk-Anemone (talk | contribs) 05:44, 28 October 2026 (UTC)
Keep. Ledgerwright — Ledgerwright (talk | contribs) 09:31, 28 October 2026 (UTC)